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rodriguez2624 (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
grogan looks soooooo high in his mugshot
marknmiami (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
Atkins should rot??...Krenwinkle killed more than any of them except for Tex...Know the story before talking.
kelillo (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
great report
mrob611 (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
Ok, fair enough...but remember... the outrageous antics of manson and the girls during the trial didn't help thier cause either.
SethBrundleDirtyFly (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
I agree from what I know of him he probably cant cut it on the outside, the general pooint I was making was that the justice system didn't treat this case fairly. Whether you heard enough of people accusing the establishment of lying in the 60's or not doesnt make it a false accusation. Apathy is such an ugly personality trait.
mrob611 (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
Establishment Lies...I heard enough of that crap back in the 60's! Grow up already! manson is a lunatic. Duh...if you have something like 50 prior convictions...that might affect your sentence! This guy can't cut it on the outside!
mrob611 (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
When Grogan was giving his little spiel in the film "manson", I thought..."this is manson speaking"...right down to the gibberish talk...zip-zap ring a ding! Also...much the same with Bruce Davis. It is a good example of the influence manson had on them. Although I do think the judge exagerated grogan's idiocy...I still don't think he was the sharpest tool in the shed.
subcin (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
No, Manson even admitted to it in the book called "Manson In His Own Words", stating that he went back to the house later that night with someone else from the group (but he wouldnt say who it was). He admitted leaving the glasses to confuse the investigation. I think his partner that night was Clem, but Ive also seen it speculated that it might have been Brenda. However, blood evidence showed that Tate and Sebring were probably moved around, so they'd have had to be someone fairly strong.
Trippple3 (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
I thought that story of Manson going to the Tate house after the mudrers were false.
PRETALIATION (January 1, 1970 at 8:59 am)
Grogan is playing music in San Bernadino under a new name.Not bad considering his judge said he 'operated at the level of an animal'.Watch the MANSON film by Hendrickson - Grogan TOTALLY mirrors Charlie - word for word with some bits of wisdom.He was a punk before he met Charlie.He played dumb and 'drugged' and I think Yes - his family must have connections.Van Houten and Krenwinkle are threats ?Old women broken by jail since age 19 ?But Atkins should rot. |